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		<title>Iron Mtn. Video Diary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Alison Saddle]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea, this was a good day for a hike. The goal for myself was to get up in 4 hours. That was barely accomplished. I didn&#8217;t take so many pictures on this one since I was rushing to get to the top. Instead, I took a series of videos on the go. Since I was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://socalhikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_0710.jpg" rel="lightbox[1629]"><img src="http://socalhikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_0710-300x225.jpg" alt="At the top" title="At the top" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1630" /></a>Yea, this was a good day for a hike. The goal for myself was to get up in 4 hours. That was barely accomplished. I didn&#8217;t take so many pictures on this one since I was rushing to get to the top. Instead, I took a series of videos on the go. </p>
<p>Since I was under some time constraints and ended up pushing myself more than normal, I could really feel the pain on my body. It started of minor, with some tingly sensations in my right leg. But then that soon was in my hands also. At the end, on top, I was feeling pretty terrible. Lightheaded, I wouldn&#8217;t say dizzy. I was almost there though.</p>
<p>This was definitely worth the second going. The path after Alison Saddle is pretty much well used now. All the yucca that stabbed me the first time and made the route almost unbearable has been cut away. The loose scree is still there though. Those steep sections are killer and a real time slower on the way down. Took us 3.5 hours just to get back to the cars.</p>
<p>Alright, here&#8217;s some more pictures, and then video are after the jump.</p>
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<p>There isn&#8217;t a video at the top or hereafter. I ran out or memory and only had 20 shots of memory available for the rest of the day.</p>
<p>You can check out all my pics from the day <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/JohnDQuan/32109IronMtn#" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Read the Meetup description <a href="http://hiking.meetup.com/196/calendar/9865662/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Allison Mine &#8211; Cross Country Exploration</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zé</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Allison Mine is one of those local mines we may never see. It is stuck in the upper reaches of Allison Gulch on the steep southwest side of Iron Mountain #1, aka Big Bad Iron. Allegedly three of six tunnels are still open with hundreds to a thousand feet of clearance. One wonders how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Allison Mine is one of those <a href="http://www.lagoldmines.com/index.php?page=532670.txt">local mines we may never see</a>. It is stuck in the upper reaches of Allison Gulch on the steep southwest side of Iron Mountain #1, aka Big Bad Iron. Allegedly three of six tunnels are still open with hundreds to a thousand feet of clearance. One wonders how in the world miners brought all the equipment up here!</p>
<p>The mine can be reached in a few &#8216;practical&#8217; ways: 1) Take the Heaton Flat trail to Coldwater Saddle, where the old Allison Mine trail starts 2) Head up the East Fork, veer east up Allison Gulch, and ascend an old use-trail to the mine.</p>
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<p>Both options will require about 6-7 miles one-way to the mine. Option #1 will deal with a lot of brush and unmaintained &#8216;trail&#8217; especially on Allison Mine trail, while option #2 deals with hiking along the east fork of the San Gabriel river for some miles and up the gulch, then taking a <strong>steep </strong>ascent up to the mine.</p>
<p>My preference is to take option #2 up, and option #1 down.</p>
<p><strong>Expected Stats:</strong></p>
<p>Gain: 3000 ft<br />
Distance: 13 miles<br />
Steepness: 883 ft/mile<br />
Terrain: Cross-country = <strong>Water crossings</strong><strong>, steep unstable use-trails, brush</strong><br />
Estimated time: 8 hrs<br />
Difficulty: 8/10 for intensity, 9/10 for terrain</p>
<p><img src="http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/261206.JPG" alt="" /></p>
<p>Trail Descriptions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/261191/allison-gulch-canyoneering.html">Summitpost</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dankat.com/advents/almine.htm]http://www.dankat.com/advents/almine.htm">Professor Brennan&#8217;s Trip Report</a></p>
<p>This is a tough hike so you must absolutely be in great shape to do it. It won&#8217;t be as strenuous like 5000 ft + elevation gain hikes, but the varied and difficult terrain will provide a workout and is only advised for those comfortable with cross-country hiking.</p>
<p><strong>Location</strong></p>
<p>This hike starts at the East Fork Ranger Station parking area. The first few miles will cover the same hike as the Bridge to Nowhere. Each car will need an Adventure Pass for parking.</p>
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		<title>Iron Mountain #1 Trip Report</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zé</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trip details are given here. Meetup Link here My Pictures GPS track here KML Google Earth file Iron Mountain #1 aka Big Bad Iron at EveryTrail 15 people signed up for this painful journey. We planned to meet at 7 am at the East Fork parking lot, and 5 left at 7:15 while I waited [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trip details are given <a class="white" href="http://socalhikes.com/2008/09/big-bad-iron-iron-mountain-1/">here</a>.<P> </p>
<p>Meetup Link <a class="white" href="http://hiking.meetup.com/196/calendar/8677045/">here</a><P> </p>
<p><a class="white" href="http://picasaweb.google.com/jmunaretto/IronMountainSept2008">My Pictures</a><P></p>
<p><a href="http://www.everytrail.com/downloadGPX.php?file=user_data/GPX/140748.gpx&#038;name=140748">GPS track here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.everytrail.com/downloadKML.php?file=user_data/KML/140748.kml&#038;name=140748">KML Google Earth file</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=140748">Iron Mountain #1 aka Big Bad Iron at EveryTrail</a><br /><iframe src="http://www.everytrail.com/iframe2.php?trip_id=140748&#038;width=576&#038;height=576" marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 frameborder=0 scrolling=no width=576 height=576></iframe> </p>
<p>15 people signed up for this painful journey. We planned to meet at 7 am at the East Fork parking lot, and 5 left at 7:15 while I waited for some others to get ready and we left at 7:30. 5 people were not there, we assumed started a bit earlier and 2 had texted they were pretty late. One guy actually had &#8220;prepared&#8221; for this by doing part of the hike on Thursday! Who the hell would want to hike Iron Mountain 2 out of 3 days? I guess he didn&#8217;t summit on Thursday, so that would give the motivation. And he was supposed to start earlier so I assumed he had.<P> </p>
<p>Anyways, getting to the trailhead, I notice this sign, which I do not remember from before:<P> </p>
<p><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kOoVC0vKCvM/SNW-HxgQoRI/AAAAAAAAJ-8/uinFxejupUk/s640/IMG_2661.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>Interesting for a couple of reasons. 5 miles away would approximate the distance to the main saddle at before the steep ridge to Iron begins, and I know there has been some discussion on what the name of it is. I don&#8217;t remember anyone considering calling it Coldwater Saddle! And also, the fact that it lists the distance to Coldwater Canyon is intriguing. Is this trail still in use? I assumed the trails off of the saddle were unmaintained&#8230;<P> </p>
<p>Luckily we started early enough to avoid sun during a good amount of the hike to the saddle. The temperature was not too bad either. Going up and down these bumps along the way didn&#8217;t seem too bad, but maybe that was because I wasn&#8217;t pushing too hard.<P> </p>
<p><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y6Z_IAL4ZHU/SNW8-WR9WdI/AAAAAAAAJ-8/J5pYKqdxids/s576/IMG_2626.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>At the saddle, topo discussion begins. For anyone who has been here, there is a faint trail to the right in this picture that curves to the southeast &#8211; it is neither the Allison Mine or Coldwater trail. It covers up quickly in brush but I still saw some remains, but I guess its nothing formal?<P> </p>
<p>I took a little break and explored the two aforementioned side trails. I walked about 50 ft on the Coldwater trail which was getting overgrown in brush, but looked passable. The Allison Mine trail definitely has not been maintained. I walked probably 200 &#8211; 300 ft on it. It was still passable in this area but certainly not the most stable terrain. I saw some footprints so at least someone has been checking it out. Definitely intrigued for future exploration<P> </p>
<p><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RhYl6RdH8og/SNW9NUtrOgI/AAAAAAAAJ-8/xwWmlIf_H0E/s640/IMG_2636.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>We continued up and, of course, it was steep. This trail gets my legs. I could be going slow and not breathing really hard, but it will still wear out my legs. It&#8217;s just so steep in parts that it burns my calves like no other. Needless to say most of the 2nd half of the hiked look like this:<P> </p>
<p><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LXbl9Ite-8s/SNW9XiA1yrI/AAAAAAAAJ-8/t3pPgNiT6PM/s640/IMG_2642.jpg.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>and this:<P> </p>
<p><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LXbl9Ite-8s/SNW9XiA1yrI/AAAAAAAAJ-8/t3pPgNiT6PM/s640/IMG_2645.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>Of the 10 people who started at the scheduled time, 9 summited. The one who didn&#8217;t had only planned to go to the saddle anyways since his knee was bothering him. One other only planned to go to the saddle, but was motivated and kept going and made it as well! 3 people had started earlier, 2 of which also had only planned to go to the saddle, but they ended up just pushing and going all the way. All people under 5 hrs. Quite inspiring!<P> </p>
<p><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0FjhvNoMbdU/SNW9iXXEJqI/AAAAAAAAJ-8/IvfC4huCOIg/s640/IMG_2647.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>One hiker and I have been talking about eventually doing the trek on the San Antonio Ridge. He decided to check out the portion just up to Gunsight Notch.<P> </p>
<p><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/jmunaretto/SNW9qg-0auI/AAAAAAAACNs/lVeBXCfWziM/s400/IMG_2650.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/jmunaretto/SNW93FhOLaI/AAAAAAAACOI/rzNk0sXnvWA/s400/IMG_2657.jpg" /><P> </p>
<p>He said it looked pretty intense. We got some contacts of some people who have done it before, so in the future we might try to get them to take a few of us up. But, that&#8217;s another adventure for another time.<P> </p>
<p>In the end, the guy who did part of the hike on Thursday didn&#8217;t show up early as he had overslept. But he still came and made it up, as well as the 2 others who showed up about an hour late. So in the end, 14 out of 15 people endured the entire painful trek. I&#8217;d say it was the most successful hike I&#8217;ve organized.</p>
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